Andrew:
Hello readers! It’s Day 3 of our 7 Days of 007, and tonight we
concluded our Sean Connery portion of the series by watching the 1964 classic Goldfinger.
Sarah, what were your thoughts on it?
Sarah: I
liked From Russia With Love better.
A: And why
is that?
S: I can’t
quite put my finger on it. I think it’s because I had a hard time with the
villain being this chubby white guy from England. I had a tough time because
he’s more like the intelligent banker who likes his gadgets versus a villain
with some brawn that can hit you where it hurts, like we saw with Robert Shaw’s
villain in From Russia With Love.
A: To play
Devil’s advocate, Goldfinger’s plan was to hit everyone where it, arguably,
hurts more – fiscally. He wasn’t
trying to take over the world, he was just trying to get rich.
S: Yes,
there are very different bad guys in these first few movies. I think I like the
taking-over-the-world bad guys better for James Bond. It’s just personal
preference, and I’m aloud to have a personal preference.
A:
Absolutely.
S: I will
say though, Pussy Galore is by far the strongest Bond girl so far. She’s a
take-no-prisoners girl, although she’s wooed by Bond, but let’s be honest what
woman isn’t? Yet she’s still kicking ass and taking names later, and I think
that shows a shift in the way women were portrayed in the films and maybe even
culture at the time. It was very interesting.
A: Ok, so
you weren’t a fan of Auric Goldfinger as a villain, but what did you think of
his henchman, Oddjob?
A: Why?
S: I just
didn’t like him, I don’t know why.
A: Because
generally speaking he’s one of the more popular villains in the entire series.
S: Well
yeah because he’s a humorous henchman to watch.
A: Well
it’s not only that, but he’s got an awesome hat that he can kill people with,
he has a ton of strength, he doesn’t speak, he’s just awesome.
S: Yeah, I
guess…
A: You’re
making this a tough one!
S: Because
I didn’t…it was just okay.
A: I
personally like From Russia With Love better, too, but of the first three Bond
films I do think this one has the most direct and most easily explained plot.
It’s a ridiculous plot, but at the same time it makes a lot of sense.
S: Well
it’s a relatively realistic plot. I think, like, the drastic change in location
midway through the movie threw me. I don’t understand why they threw in some
random characters, like Jill Masterson’s sister. And then I found the middle
section pretty slow. The whole Switzerland thing? I understand they had to find
a way to introduce Pussy Galore and this was their way of doing that, but I
felt it stopped the movie dead.
A: I agree
with you that it has some pacing problems, but I think the pacing problem hits
when the movie moves to Kentucky, not Switzerland.
S: Yeah,
that too! We get to Kentucky and we go to a horse farm? How stereotypical is
that?
A: Well to
me it’s that Bond is thrown in a cell, so your protagonist is out of the
picture for a bit, and while I like Goldfinger’s presentation of his grand
scheme…
S: I
didn’t understand what the deal with all those gangsters being present was
about. I understood that they all had brought or smuggled pieces into the
country for Goldfinger…
A: Yes,
and then he kills them so that he wraps up any loose ends and they can’t be
traced back to him.
S: I
understand that, I get it, but you know what it really is? I was bored with
this movie.
A: Ok,
that’s what I was trying to get to.
S: Ok, I
was bored by it. I felt that…and maybe this is the problem I have with the
older Bond movies right now, but I feel like they’re all the same.
A: How’s
that?
S: You
know, Bond gets his assignment, we’re introduced to the bad guy, Bond goes out,
a Bond girl is introduced, Bond fights the villain and he wins. Movie over.
A: Have
you ever seen a Bond movie before?? That’s what they’re ALL like!
S: I know,
but I think the early ones were SO simple. They’re too simple for me.
A: Ok, so
you bring up an interesting point: is it more the movie itself that you find
boring or too simple, or is it the time period in which the movie was made? Our
generation is a bit jaded because movies today are so different from the ones
made 50 years ago.
S: Here’s
the thing – I love old movies; certain kids of old movies. I think it’s old
action movies that bother me. Because to me they are so unbelievable and cheesy
and I guess I need to take them for what they are and not try to overanalyze
them. I guess they weren’t really meant to be deeply analyzed, they were meant
to be taken as they were.
A: Yes,
but my point is that an older movie like this, from 1964…action movies had been
around, yes, but for all intents and purposes they were still in their infancy.
So there are going to be pacing problems, there are going to be ways that they
shoot action scenes that we’ll find problems with. But is that something you
can straight up say is a negative about a movie like Goldfinger, or do you
have to take it for what it is – a product of its time?
S: It’s
definitely a product of its time. But I think it changes the way we do our
reviews about it because…you literally cannot compare a 1960s movie to a 2012
movie. But it’s extremely hard not to.
A: Agreed.
S: It’s
just…I think it’s just difficult to write reviews on old movies like this.
A: Ok, but
remember we’re not just reviewing this movie, we’re holding a discussion on it
and these older Bond films. The reason I had us watch this was – much like the
first two – we’re still growing into the Bond franchise. This is only the third
of 23 films. There are plenty of classic moments like the laser scene, and the
exchange of “Do you expect me to talk?”
S: “No,
Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!” Yes! And all of these classic lines and moments
from these first three Bond films we’ve watched…a lot of modern action films
are derivative of these older Bond movies.
A: But we
have to remember with these older movies, at the time of their release all this
stuff was fresh and new! Again, it’s more of we’re not looking to criticize the
movie, but we are critiquing it and trying to find an appreciation of it.
I agree with you – Goldfinger is not and never has been
one of my favorite Bond films. It has some pacing problems, I don’t think
Goldfinger is one of the better villains…
S: I like
the idea of the villain but I think it was a casting issue. I just am having a
hard time getting over his outward appearance. I can’t explain it. He looks
like Winston Churchill. I don’t know, he just looks like a bumbling fool to me
and it makes it hard for me to take him as this mastermind and criminal.
A: I don’t
see him as a fool. He looks like a legitimate businessman, and that’s sort of
what he is.
S: Here’s
the thing – I can appreciate Goldfinger for the nuances and the
foundation it helped build for the franchise. Obviously movies have taken a lot
from these Bond films and it’s very clear that Sean Connery is the original
James Bond. He’s great. It’s just…
A: They’re
different movies compared to what we have now. Plain and simple.
Ok, we’ve beaten that horse to death, so let’s start
wrapping this up and cover some other Bond-isms real quick. What did you think
of the Q gadgets in this film, like the Aston Martin?
S: We’re
definitely getting into classic Bond territory now. I love the repartee that
Bond and Q have. It’s quite humorous and I love it. It’s like an older teacher
slapping a young boy on the hand while teaching him.
A: What
did you think of the car?
S: It’s
everything you could want. I love that he uses everything, but I was bummed
that he used every trick the car had basically in one scene.
A: Yeah, I
don’t like that he had to ditch it either.
S: Well it
got demolished! But that’s reminds me of how Q is always telling Bond to bring
his stuff back in one piece and never does. That will always be a running gag
in the series.
A: Q even
says it in Skyfall. Ok, so final thoughts on Goldfinger?
S: Even
though it bored me, there are so many classic parts in it that are still
referenced today. The girl painted in gold, the car, there are just too many
classic parts of the Bond franchise in this movie to mark it down too much.
It’s fun to see where all these origin pieces come from and
I have an appreciation of that from these first three films. It’s interesting
to see where it all started from and to see where the series is now. Not having
seen much of anything in-between, it’s neat to see the difference between where
the series started and where it is today.
A:
Absolutely. And we’ll start watching some of those in-between films as the week
goes on.
(Individual Scores - S: 3.5/5 A: 3.5/5) |
Photo Courtesy: Collectors Club of Great Britain
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